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KiloMonster, July 8th, 2013, 1:15 am ( Reply )

- I'm going to preemptively answer the question "How did Kilo notice the would-be thief from before was there without looking?" and tell you that he recognized her by smell. He didn't really care that she was there because he had to deal with the man and Todd. /things no one probably cares about but I felt I should explain anyway

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this, this is how threats are made

posted by shadow7127 on July 8th, 2013, 9:07 am

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Seriously what's with all the crazy people in this universe?! has no one heard of the Tiger joke?

"Where does the 500 pound Tiger sit?"

"Anywhere it likes"

You can replace "Tiger" with "Zid'ral" and get the same idea here!! DX

posted by Darth AWQ on July 8th, 2013, 10:31 am

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Kilo's threats and subtle sass are beautiful.

posted by Mushroom (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 11:03 am

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!!! I'm interested, dang that's so neat, I wouldn't have figured it out otherwise. Dang. Dang. I am liking Kilo more with every page he's so great d ang. dang. Thanks for this awesome comic. Dang.

posted by nehima (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 12:20 pm

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I'm sorry, but the more it goes, the more I'm disapointed in the comic.

I mean, let's compare.
Todd shot Kilo, okay, but that did almost nothing, he kicked himself over it and apologized.
Kilo? He crushes Todd's hand, tries to kill him, treats him like shit (don't tell me you didn't notice his sadistic smirk after he pushed him!), and he dares to pretend having the higher moral ground here?! I really hoped he would receive a verbal teardown from Todd!
And I'm getting sick of seeing Todd be nothing but a punching bag for everyone, and not even being able to at least punch the other shithead!

I really liked that comic, and I'll still read it, but all this really pisses me off, and I truly hope that'll change!

Awaiting an answer to all this.

Sorry if I speak too harshly, but that's how I feel. (Please don't take it personally, okay? It's just how I feel about the comic, not you).

posted by Mekal (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 1:08 pm

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I disagree with the person who posted about how the character's reactions should be.
I see Todd as emotionally compromised at the moment because he realized that he lost control of his emotions and almost made a mistake that would have haunted him more than shooting Kilo (since it didn't hurt him in the slightest.)
Kilo probably didn't mean for Todd to stumble into the man like that. He might have thought it as funny but probably didn't mean to start the argument and so he might feel obligated to fix it.
This is the feel for the characters as I read it and my sole opinion.

posted by Ocarina22 (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 3:03 pm

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I'm going to second Ocarina22! I think all actions are reactions are quite understandable if you consider the characters' personalities/histories. And Mekal, whatever happened at Rokk'che must have been absolutely terrible: while the bearded man definitely shouldn't have directed his anger at Todd the way he did, I don't think that calling him a "shithead" and /wanting/ Todd to punch him is entirely fair. Both sides are hurt. Kilo did the right thing here, in my opinion.

I love this comic a lot so far, keep up the great work!

posted by Spesiria (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 3:30 pm

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@Mekal: Todd isn't necessarily a punching bag, it's more to reveal the current state of his character to leave for development later on. Todd obviously dosent retaliate against Kilo because he clearly admires him greatly. Kilo probably does feel bad for his actions, (he though he wouldn't admit it at this point) but the fact that he stopped Todd to begin with showed that he cared enough about him not to let him give into hate. Anyway, you're supposed to feel conflicted about the situation. It's pretty silly to be disappointed about it when the comic hasnt had time to really 'grow' yet.

posted by Guest on July 8th, 2013, 4:47 pm


@KiloMonster: ohhhhh she's the character from chapter one I didn't even notice! awesome!

posted by leon990 on July 8th, 2013, 5:02 pm

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I can't really add anything more to what Ocarina, Sepesiria, and AnonGuest have already pointed out, haha. I am glad that you guys were able to pick up on some of the things I was intentionally going for. And it's really cool to see how you see things too, Mekal, so I thank you very much for taking the time to express your feelings so far.

I guess one thing I might be able to say as a creator is that if it feels frustrating to watch my characters make irresponsible and contradictory decisions/actions, then something is going right. Characters can't grow as people if they did everything right in a situation from the beginning. It's okay to feel conflicted and frustrated with them right now, because as the story goes on, they'll have to make changes to get anywhere.

posted by KiloMonster on July 8th, 2013, 6:26 pm

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The one thing I want to add to what Mekal said was that I don't think Kilo was taking the "moral high ground". The way he said "Trust me" makes me think that he had done before exactly what Todd was trying to do now. He was trying to save Todd from something pointless that would later haunt him. I think he was trying to give Todd the moral high ground.

posted by HexCode (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 6:48 pm

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if you don't leave when a huge scary lizard guy is telling you to leave you're probably a big idiot

posted by Qiam (Guest) on July 8th, 2013, 8:02 pm

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@KiloMonster: I do agree with your point of leaving room for development with a character and the webcomic has been doing great with it thus far. But I do feel it is important to know when you leave too much room for development, ie making an unrelatable jerk. I remember reading a story recently where a character stole beer, got drunk, and then later threatened a guy for not respecting him, and somehow he was the protagonist. Of course it didn't help that his character development never saw him remove this habit of threatening people who didn't respect him, even though they were demonstrating a lot more intelligence than he did. I ended up hating him throughout the entire story, but I digress.

I'm mostly saying this to offer a counterpoint, not to say that you're doing it. As with nearly everything, it's all about balance. And I must say thus far you have done a very good job with your story and I can't wait to see more. Keep up the good work. :)

posted by SoDaRa on July 8th, 2013, 8:10 pm

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I just read your answers, and I admit you're right.

But it's what the author says: to see the characters behave like that (especially for someone who reads the tumblr) frustrates me to no end.

And while I admit the Rokkchean must have suffered, he still went way too far. And he still tries and continue after what just happened, after seeing how Todd he's horrified, and (as Qiam says) after a guy who could easily crush him tells to shut up?! Sorry, but I still think he's an asshole.

posted by Mekal (Guest) on July 9th, 2013, 2:28 am

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Haha, of course you may think he's an asshole. Different people interpret certain situations and characters differently. I dunno, I personally just really feel for the guy (even though he did indeed go too far, as I said before)! So I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly. I find the whole lashing out in anger thing on both sides /understandable/, even though it's not a good way to solve anything (and the comic makes that very clear, which I like!).

posted by Spesiria (Guest) on July 9th, 2013, 3:59 am

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I don't... see anything wrong with this comic. Kilo's reactions are understandable: by now, we understand that he has been made fun of... profusely... and probably knows what it's like to beat the crap out of someone and not feel better from it. It's called characterization, Mekal. And it's been going on for the past 60 pages... You don't always flat out tell someone about a character... you show through actions and reactions. ^^;

And Todd... well, Todd I hope we get more into after this page. Because he really just seems like a soldier with only semi-flat features.

The pages in the subway station were a little cluttered (a few blocks of black might help), but that's about it.

posted by AngelicDirt on July 9th, 2013, 5:14 pm

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The first arc of Monster's Garden is planned to be 360+ pages long.

I wouldn't judge Todd as being JUST a one dimensional soldier character at this point when he's only been in less than half of the pages so far, while Kilo has been in the majority of them.

posted by KiloMonster on July 9th, 2013, 7:05 pm

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Of coarse Todd's an asshole. He's a burnt out Good Soldier with issues that he's to MANLY and SOLIDER to face because OMG FEELINGS! who seen and done some nasty shit. Being a Good Soldier tears you up.

posted by BPurg (Guest) on July 18th, 2013, 5:34 pm

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@BPurg: I can't tell if this is an ironic or honest assessment of Todd's character.

I'll just grin to myself knowingly of the events yet to come.

posted by KiloMonster on July 18th, 2013, 7:26 pm

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@KiloMonster: Ohhh you little tease. I can't wait.

posted by takato14 on July 18th, 2013, 9:50 pm

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@KiloMonster: Little bit of both. I do not think we, the audience, are meeting Todd on the best of days. I know enoghf about deployed soldiers in real life to assume Todd's behaviors are not abnormal because of that. It just really sucks to be him at the moment. Shoot your fan icon and then get sucked into political drama outside of your comfort zone. There'll be some drinking or something tonight.

posted by BPurg (Guest) on July 21st, 2013, 3:27 pm

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@Mekal: Don't be rude, otherwise the author might get up and walk away, i've seen it happen way too many times

posted by Tyler (Guest) on July 24th, 2013, 9:29 am

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